Showing posts with label Roma. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Roma. Show all posts

Monday, August 6, 2012

Romney, Rumney, Roots Saga, Refuge Theory of Mormonism. Partisania

Romney-Rumney.  Tangle of Backgrounds. 
Does any thread lead to Roma? 
Assimilation, or Never a Factor? 

Does Mitt have an inquiring mind? He could answer all this.

Romney. Heritage, perhaps. Candidate Romney. Considerations. http://gypsiesroma.blogspot.com/2011/04/candidate-romney-immigration-policy-of.html.


The name had been Rumney, and was later changed to Romney. Rumney:  roots in neutral English history, places, even an aristocrat in the 17th Century; or Rumnichal, Roma. History of persecution of gypsies in England and continent. Factor in readiness to convert to Mormonism? Look at roots, an angle on history regardless of outcome. http://www.hellofodderhellobuyer.blogspot.com/#!http://hellofodderhellobuyer.blogspot.com/2011/12/candidates-and-their-own-minority-roots.html.  Part the whimsey of seeing where trails lead, see http://sassafrasthicket.blogspot.com/2012/01/steered-by-navels-and-surnames-what-if.html; and part a serious look at how we create ourselves, our own narratives. Are we our forbears? Which?

Roma in England:  Leicestershire, Leeds. http://englandroadways.blogspot.com/2007/12/spin-off-sites-from-road-trips-tying.html
  • Romney - History, ethnic experience. See  http://gypsiesroma.blogspot.com/2007/10/roma-history-of-persecution.html.  Secrecy as survival tactic. http://gypsiesroma.blogspot.com/2012/01/rom-survival-role-of-secrecy-surname.html  
    • Non-Gypsy meanings.  Roma root word is also related to non-Gypsy Rumenea, Roman town, meaning Saxon Fold. Romney sheep: So would Romney sheep predate Roma Romney herders, and pertain to Saxons?  Romanel. Invader at time of William the Conqueror 1066+, before Roma-Gypsies entered England in 1500's.  There are heritage and interpretation ambiguities as to any individual family. Early chronology: see adaptations of Roma culture to survival needs. Romani were banned in 1530, by parliament. Forced out on pain of death 1560's. Head to Ireland, Wales?
Does family background impact immigration views. See  http://joyofequivocating.blogspot.com/2011/10/deny-thy-father-romney-as-roma-other.html. 

Ruminate: Would firming up questions of background humanize a candidate. Start with Dalton-in-Furness church records: when they begin, why so late. Ask why there are few if any memorials to the Rumneys of Dalton? Can this be so? Speak to us of monuments, tributes. Does this mean a mean origin rather than aristocratic? Do we care, except that transparency is a value I hold dear, in anything, even though I also fall short all the time. http://www.sassafrastree.blogspot.com/#!http://sassafrastree.blogspot.com/2012/05/romney-ancestral-home-no-tributes-no.html

Track the Rumneys. Timeline of a family. http://www.hellofodderhellobuyer.blogspot.com/#!http://hellofodderhellobuyer.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-romneys-rumneys-of-dalton-romney.html

Mitt Romney's line may or may not be related to 18th Century painter George Romney. Proof of brothers, John and Thomas, with same last name, 1730's, or different lines?

Romney emigration.  Later Mormon emigrants, a few years after, received financial and social support from a new Mormon corporation here, see the Mormon Perpetual Emigrating Fund. And it was a corporation.
Enter Partisania.

Regardless of background, who have we here, see here, see here:  http://www.sassafrasthicket.blogspot.com/#!http://sassafrasthicket.blogspot.com/2012/07/dancing-moguls-sonnets-and-song-for-mitt.html.

Ancestry dot com could tell us, with some DNA applied fairly all around the candidates. Sing along. http://www.sassafrasthicket.blogspot.com/#!http://sassafrasthicket.blogspot.com/2012/01/news-talk-walk-eked-tweets.html. 

For culture, add political Latin.  Mitto Mittas Mittat? http://sassafrasthicket.blogspot.com/2012/07/political-latin-mitto-declension.html

Can we educate ourselves to withstand the advertising onslaught, and seek merit? http://bogomilia.blogspot.com/2011/01/edward-bernays-how-to-regiment-public.html

Or keep a sense of humor about politics, the unknowns that drive us.  For the cultural historians: Do those from a heritage that was abused, abuse in turn? The cycle of abuse? Or is exploitation just natural. http://www.hellofodderhellobuyer.blogspot.com/#!http://hellofodderhellobuyer.blogspot.com/2012/01/big-bain-trolls-at-play-auld.html

Friday, June 12, 2009

Rankism; other human hard-wirings. Scapegoats, Targets, Outcastes, outcasting

By Dint

Rankism vs. quiet dignity of place, life with choices.

KNGDV: Woman as Guide in Front. Can or Does the Religious Establishment Re-Read Texts
Rankism and mis-translation.  Perpetuate a misconception of the original role of woman:  created as guide, in front of. Wolf Pack rules theology, see Dominion: Worst Concept in the World

GYPSIES, ROMA, ROMANI

Roma, Forced Settlement Laws halted the caravans, forced settlement, removed vocations, ghettoized.

Gypsies, Roma in Hungary: Still Targeted

Roma in Slovakia

Roma, History of Persecutions  Includes hate crimes, the why. The "justifications"

Poverty. Defenses of Any Underclass.  Here, Roma.  Extenuating circumstances, poverty, not recognized as a defense to crime. System imposing restrictions, fostering prejudice, will not see it. See parallel, American Blacks.

Contemporary Social, Economic Issues, Gypsies: "Bury Me Standing" "Bury me standing, I've spent my whole life on my knees." Book, Isabel Fonseca. Eastern Europe gypsy culture, experience; other references to culture elsewhere

Cycles of Abuse: Migrations of Roma to Ireland Gypsies, Travelers, Romani. Violence in Belfast against Romanian gypsies, or roma. How will traditional Irish Traveler groups respond to new migrations.

Gypsies, Roma: Literary references


JEWS

Sunday, May 24, 2009

Cultures, Religions. Cross-Pollinating Spirituality.

By Dint:

NATIVE AMERICAN - I Sing a Song of Sitting Bull. Buffalo Totem.
Put essential points of the life of Sitting Bull, who defeated Custer at Little Big Horn, and in defense of lands granted to the Indians through the Treaty of Laramie.  Buffalo totem:  follow the footnote


NATIONAL

Afghanistan: How to Learn. Self-Help

ETHNIC

Andaman Water Gypsies "Sea gypsies", Myanmar

"Gyptians" as Gypsies, origins Historical and legendary John Faa, origin of Samoyed dog, migrating groups, steppes; cultural-ethnic mix with indo-gypsies? "Golden Compass" film cultural references, pop culture.

Magyars, Khazars (Central Asia Jewish cultures) Hazars - physical characteristic may include epicanthal fold in Norse blonde children, disappears about age 2, traces of past interminglings?


RELIGIOUS

PROTESTANT

EASTERN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN

ROMAN CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN

JUDAISM


ISLAM - a best effort at learning more here. Did we get it right?

Historical Islam, Pre-Islam, Women and Roles Hind bint Rabi'a, others. The Historian vs. the Persuader.

DRUIDISM

Sassafras - Widespread Use, Veneration: Druids, Native Americans

GYPSY, ROMA, ROMANI

Roma, popular culture vs. cultural belief Find universal concepts such as shamans, daemons, other guides. Reference: Hollywood picks up some at "Golden Compass" film. This site also references Native American, Judeo-Christian, Greek and other demons ideas in other belief systems.

MITHRAISM
Mithraism, Religion of Rome and Paul

Tuesday, May 19, 2009

Cultures, Groups, Western, Central Europe

By Dint:

CULTURES WITHOUT WRITING
(until outsiders wrote)
Hwaet! Power of the Written Word. Beowulf; saved by the ABC's Value of cultures who did not, or could not, create their own writing system; how much lost. Aleut, Eskimo, Celts, even Vikings, women's histories

VLACHS - CROSS BORDER, GREECE, EASTERN EUROPE
Vlachs: Gypsy Roots? Or earlier - areas of Roman influence Linguistic roots to Latin, some say. Romania area?

Vlachs: Nomads, Shepherds Gypsy roots; Greek tradition; Romania; enslavement


GYPSY, ROMA

Survey Sites, Roma
Romani law, culture, religion; includes references to Vlachs, as a separate people; and Vlachs (found in Roman old Romania area) speaking Romani. Not clear if the Vlachs speak Romani, suggesting a connection, or a vernacular form of old Latin. Other Roma customs.

Origins, Romani; Myths, Linguistics
Genius of the Survivor - Gypsies, Itinerant, Un-Propertied Rome fell; Gypsies survive. The genius of a targeted culture.
Romney or Cant, Gypsy Language
Bogomils, Deemed "Heretic" and persecuted, thought killed off, by Roman branch of Christianity, Balkans, Bosnia
This group was persecuted by the Roman branch of Christianity, thought killed off. Some traditions remain, it is said, despite the assimilations

POLAND
Hussars, Winged Cavalry, Poland

Khazars, or Hazars, Central, Eastern European Culture

CROATIA
Sinj, Croatia: The 600 Horsemen
Uskoks, Croatia

ASIA, EUROPE, UNITED STATES

Gypsies, Roma, Romani
Includes the "Travelers" of Great Britain, different heritage, language, but similar roots?

Melungeons Cultural, ethnic mix, Appalachia, Southern coastal areas, US



Women's Role, Western Culture
Women Restricted in Civil War to "grieving" Death of Abraham Lincoln - participation of women limited to grieving, see Godey's Lady Book, no discussion of policy, impact.


RESISTANCE - The First French Resistor, An Ordinary Man, On His Own

RESISTANCE - Czech Republic Paratrooper Resistance WWII; assassination of Reynhard Heydrich, Prague


THE IGNORED - Women - Roles Left Out of the Civil War



CULTURES - Gypsies, Roma, Romani